[JackiBoi]

Damn MS suck...what else is there to say

[dj_cityboy]

Or you could switch to OSX; that's an option too, ya know. Or Linux. Give something else a try, and who knows, you might never go back.

(lol.)

sure man there plenty of options....i could put peanut butter in my floppy drive too...thats not goin to get me back my $299
nor is that goin to fix the issue that a lot of people feel as though we have been ripped off....

i have made a plan to call Microsoft and ask them what they plan for there "ultimate extras" and see what they say...um sure they'll laugh at me..but that proves a bigger point!

peas
cityboy

[Ludacris]

Actually you can forget them. what was about Dreamescene? oh i was able to do that in a better way with VLC Player, where i have sound. oh. i can even get Dreamecene, because i am from austria and it is only availabe on english systems. What about Bitlocker, oops, i dont have a TPM module on my pc, so it is useless. And Texas holdem? oh.. there i can also play partypoker, is better, because you play with/vs real persons... I am really fed up with that "extras"

[dj_cityboy]

well i hate to say this and trust me bro i dont mean this in a bad way but, i am glad you are hating on Vista as well...that just gives me "more fuel for my fire" honestly....

we need some kind of a petition to find out what microsft considers "Extras" or what will be coming for that matter....seeing as we have no freekin clue!

as long as more and more people feel the same way we do!

peas
cityboy

[Ludacris]

well i hate to say this and trust me bro i dont mean this in a bad way but, i am glad you are hating on Vista as well...that just gives me "more fuel for my fire" honestly....

we need some kind of a petition to find out what microsft considers "Extras" or what will be coming for that matter....seeing as we have no freekin clue!

as long as more and more people feel the same way we do!

peas
cityboy

Actually I love Vista. If I have a problem, i insert the DVD and then let the PE repair my system. It always works. Actually I am just fed up i payed more for the extras, i cant even get them, because of our schools proxy. actually they are just useless for me....

[Neological™]

True, this is a really big let down, a compete scam. Rubbish. I aggre all the way.

[Devblade]

one of my hobbies is collecting different OS's..

linux is difficult to use if you've been conditioned for windows.
Mac OSX is good... but it feels sluggish.. and sometimes it feels to simple for me, but you never know.. you might like it
Vista... has to be the biggest ripoff ever realy.. it has some good features, new skins.. looks good, but it realy kills your pc.. not worth it realy
and M$ knows it, can you believe they started creating vista only games (halo 2 port for vista) i think its just an effort to force people into buying vista
XP... sort of an old hat now... but by far the best, you can make it look like vista, and it works faster.. i'v had it for a few years now and it never lets me down
has quite a few security holes.. but overall very good for home use

so i prefer XP.. but i would like to use vista if it wern't a ripoff

[dj_cityboy]

but i would like to use vista if it wern't a ripoff

the more people respond to this, the quicker we can send this info to M$
and i still plan a phone call to them....just waiting to find the time!!

peas
cityboy

[Ludacris]

I do not think vista is a rip off. It is uniqe as MacOSX.

[dj_cityboy]

I do not think vista is a rip off. It is uniqe as MacOSX.

well i dont nessesarily think it was a ripped off, but i would like to know what um getting for my well earned money?
i feel like i made a sale with some guy on ebay with a 10% rating...honestly? i have no clue what um getting for my money nor was i told what i may or may not recieve, and hey! i may not get anything?

imagine i said "hey dude, send me $300 and ill send you somthing great" 4 months later yer all "hey dude wheres my "great" thing you were goin to send me"

and um all"oh yeah that, yeah um not sure what that is yet, so do you mind waiting a bit longer? and um not quite sure how long ill be either so....yeah"

thats what i feel i got from Microsoft right now as far as these "extras" go! know ones given me a ballpark idea of what i may get.....and they have my money...so how long do we wait is my question or better yet what will i be getting? they may not have actual software/extras to provide at the monent but i would at least hope/pray they have a plan on what there goin to give people for buying it too there "ultimate extras" crap so far?

even some kind of an update, even if it was not to be released until September or whatever....anything would be nice!!

peas
cityboy

[Stevey]

well i dont nessesarily think it was a ripped off, but i would like to know what um getting for my well earned money?
i feel like i made a sale with some guy on ebay with a 10% rating...honestly? i have no clue what um getting for my money nor was i told what i may or may not recieve, and hey! i may not get anything?

imagine i said "hey dude, send me $300 and ill send you somthing great" 4 months later yer all "hey dude wheres my "great" thing you were goin to send me"

and um all"oh yeah that, yeah um not sure what that is yet, so do you mind waiting a bit longer? and um not quite sure how long ill be either so....yeah"

thats what i feel i got from Microsoft right now as far as these "extras" go! know ones given me a ballpark idea of what i may get.....and they have my money...so how long do we wait is my question or better yet what will i be getting? they may not have actual software/extras to provide at the monent but i would at least hope/pray they have a plan on what there goin to give people for buying it too there "ultimate extras" crap so far?

even some kind of an update, even if it was not to be released until September or whatever....anything would be nice!!

peas
cityboy

I agree, you don't expect to pay a huge ammount of money and not get what you've payed for, that's why I use HomePremium or below because Ulitmate has nothing different, for me, in it!

[Devblade]

if you want good features without paying for them.. i would recommend linux...

i use it (so far i dont have a clue how to use it right ) but its fast, and its roughly like vista, maybe a little unrefined

This post has been edited by Devblade: 06 June 2007 - 09:57 PM

[Mitchell]

The retail price for Windows Vista is a joke but the biggest gripe I have is the price of the retail Ultimate Edition £400 or $400 I mean you could get a whole new PC for that now. To be honest Vista isn't anything special once you have used it for a bit this so called "WOW" dies out! At the moment I still don't think it stands as stable and is fast as XP at the moment which is why I still have them dual booting. Compatability is good but not for everyone so its not great. Ease of use I could also debate on for the average home user who likes basic things such as e-mail and internet it still can be a nightmare with UAC Dialogs ect.. aswell as all the different product editions too. I also would not call Vista feature packed as most (but not all) features are already in XP or optional for it such as IE 7, Windows Media Player 11, Windows Defender, RSS Feeds support and so on. Now for the so called "Ultimate Extras" I do think this is a way of getting more money out of people and these so called extras are pathetic. Dreamscene which gets boring after about 5 minutes, Hold Em Poker which I never play because I'm not into it and finally BitLocker which is no use for me as I am a home user and yet again have no use for it. Another thing is that users find themselfs paying an extra £200 or $200 odd for Ultimate rather than Home Premium and for what? 4 extra features. I suppose the bottom line in general is Windows Vista is just to catch the consumers eye and spend a large amount of money especially for Ultimate Edition with its eye candy features like Aero Glass, Flip 3D, Live Taskbar Thumbnails and whatever. These are not essential for working on a PC are they? Now thats all said you may all be wondering why I have Ultimate Edition well thats becuase I don't have to pay for it and got it legally from MSDN Subscriptions. If I did have the money I still wouldn't pay for any version of Windows Vista because I feel it's not worth it.

[Purple Puppy]

I suppose the bottom line in general is Windows Vista is just to catch the consumers eye and spend a large amount of money especially for Ultimate Edition with its eye candy features like Aero Glass, Flip 3D, Live Taskbar Thumbnails and whatever. These are not essential for working on a PC are they?

Windows Vista Business, as well as Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, have Aero, and all the stuff associated with it as well. So the GUI is not something that's causing customers to pick Ultimate over the other Vista's. And anyway a good GUI is essential for working on a PC since after one has been using a good looking interface for a long time, he can't bear to use one with an ugly interface. Or at least that's me.

However, there are a few things that cause people to buy Vista Ultimate. Ultimate is the only one in which you can type characters of other languages using the MUI. Also, stuff like Dreamscene attract users. Lastly, Vista Ultimate has all the programs bundled with Vista, even though a good half of them are quite crappy.

[ark_mage2]

ok, what type stuff would u guys like to see in Ultimate extras, I am disapointed with it as well, but I am sure they will "eventually" come out with new stuff.

[Ludacris]

The retail price for Windows Vista is a joke but the biggest gripe I have is the price of the retail Ultimate Edition £400 or $400 <snip>

You can also take the systembuilder versiion, which is at 150 € or so atm.

[Corey]

Who can name the "Ultimate Extra" that was supposed to be an Extra but is freely available to download from Microsoft?

[kosken]

Well, cant ultimate run unix things or something? Besides ultimate, I wish that in all versions, they would put in more gadgets, like someone said before, more aero themes (ms signed, and not color variations) and more customization. Like explorer for example. I would like to move the previewer and all the other things to different spots maybe. Also I think its missing a desktopmanager, (4 desks) I know you can just download one but I want it to be integrated, with realtime previewing, and nice animations, etc. ( and to be better then the ms powertoy with xp) Lastly I would really like a gadget builder with a GUI. Something like the dashboard on mac. Those are the things I think not only Vista is missing as a whole not only ultimate.

Koss

[Qandeel]

I h8 it!

Microsoft is gonna force Manufacturer's to pre-install Vista instead of XP!

M$ you murder's!

What did XP do ever to you! It made you rich did'nt it!?

[dj_cityboy]

well you will be happy to know that i just called Microsoft!!

i called thins number listed on Microsoft's site:

Telephone
(800) MICROSOFT (642-7676)

i spoke with Katherine at the New Glasgow location here in Nova Scotia in the "Pre Sales Centre" and she was a dumb as a boot....now i usually dont say that cause i think its rude but ...she really was!!

she asked me for my first and last name and my telephone number with area code!

from there i started to question her about Ultimate "extras" and what extras were....and what they considered extras, and if there were goin to be more to come?

she told me "EXTRAS" are considered things like bitlocker the data encryption, simple PC backup and some other mumbo jumbo....
i asked her about dreamscene and there stoopid poker game and she had nuthin to say about that....

i asked her if there was somone else i could speak with that may be able to answer my questions....she placed me on hold....came back and said there was no one there at that time that could help me? go figure...i told her i was a beta tester for the OS and for the Live mail and messener and that i would really like to speak with her manager to get a bit of a better answer or at least some info....
she placed me on hold again....came back and said her manager was on lunch @ 6:50pm.......interesting time to take lunch...

i asked her if there was anything in the works or comin down the pipe that she may know of....and she said she didnt know of anything....

i told her that a lot of people are getting upset about these exrtas and are wondering what were getting for our money....because i feel i could have stuck with XP and came close to having all the same things these extras give me...she told me that i may want to contact someone at there Corporate Office and thats when i asked where she was...she then gave me this number and said i may have better luck (425)882-8080 and said that was the number to Redmond.

i told her i would call and said good bye!

so that was that and i got no solid answer other then "you may want to call Redmond" i will call Redmond and ask more questions...and when i do, you'll know~

peas
cityboy